Announcement of the Archbishop Cecil

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Announcement of the Archbishop Cecil

Post by Gaza on Wed May 17, 2017 2:56 pm

The Camarilla continue to play their games, toying with the cattle by manipulating them to enact curfews in our city and direct their attention towards us. The Sabbat that can bring me proof of the destruction for the ones responisble for these pathetic camarilla attacks shall prove themself worthy of the title of Bishop of Information.

Additionally, let it be known that keeping ghouls is a sign of dominion, similar to how the camarilla ‘elders’ boss their neonates around. We do not enslave anyone, even mortals with the blood bond. Those who deserve power shall earn it in the eyes of Caine, those who engage in this distasteful habit are not true sabbat.

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Re: Announcement of the Archbishop Cecil

Post by Mr B on Thu May 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Out of character.

No ghouls - sucks to be non koldun Tzimisce then

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Re: Announcement of the Archbishop Cecil

Post by SimonC on Fri May 19, 2017 3:12 am

OOC

I've been doing some reading in looking at interpretations and Tzimisce create Hellhounds, Szlachta and Vohzd and the book is has contradictions. Specifically looking at Szlachta, the bestial abomination of a human, While the interpretation of a Ghoul Retainer is roughly a blood bound human retainer, so is a Szlachta, they are still blood bound monsters created from a human - though not playable as a PC. (You can still have non-ghoul retainers that don't have a discipline specialty)

But then under the Servants section of the Sabbat, it says Tzimisce with a mastery of Vicissitude create unusual retainers - HellHound, Szlachta and Vohzd.

So Szlachta are a type of retainer but so is a Ghoul, So which is it? Need an ST definition - are Szlachta a type of retainer or are they also a Ghoul?

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Re: Announcement of the Archbishop Cecil

Post by Gaza on Fri May 19, 2017 5:53 am

OOC: Szlachta/Hellhounds are types of ghoul, whereas Revenants are not ghouls. There are various interpretations of what is an isn't allowable in the Sabbat. The hardline interpretation of not blood bonding whatsoever anyone would usually only be held by fanatical Loyalists; or characters on the Path of Caine, most Tzimesce in particular would argue the point however. Most dioceses do at least tolerate kindred owning ghouls, even if it's not officially stating that they are allowed.

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